Manchester United 1908-1909

FA Cup Winners

Won FA Cup · 13th in the Division One, 37 pts

Manchester United won FA Cup in 1908-1909, finishing 13th in the Division One with 37 points from 38 games and scoring 71 goals in all competitions. They won 21, drew 7 and lost 16 of their 44 games in all competitions under Ernest Mangnall.

Won

Drawn

Lost

Form

Season at a Glance

Goals Scored

Conceded

Played

How this season compares

of 123 seasons

1.59

Points per game

78th-best of 123 full seasons

1.61

Goals per game

80th-best of 123 full seasons

1.61

Conceded per game

98th-best of 123 full seasons

48%

Win rate

75th-best of 123 full seasons

In the Division One, United ranked 10th of 20 for goals scored (-0.03 per game vs the league average) and 17th for fewest conceded. That was 12 places lower than 1907-1908 (-15 points).

Cup Runs

Top Scorers

All Results

44 matches

September 1908 5W · 0D · 0L

Preston North End A

D1 Turnbull 2, Halse

3–0

5 Sep 18,000 1-0-0 W1

Bury H

D1 Turnbull 2

2–1

7 Sep 16,000 2-0-0 W2

Middlesbrough H

D1 Turnbull 4, Halse, Wall

6–3

12 Sep 25,000 3-0-0 W3

Manchester City A

D1 Turnbull, Halse

2–1

19 Sep 40,000 4-0-0 W4

Liverpool H

D1 Halse 2, Turnbull

3–2

26 Sep 25,000 5-0-0 W5

October 1908 1W · 2D · 2L

Bury A

D1 Wall, Halse

2–2

3 Oct 25,000 5-1-0 D1

Sheffield United H

D1 Bell 2

2–1

10 Oct 14,000 6-1-0 W1

Aston Villa A

D1 Halse

1–3

17 Oct 40,000 6-1-1 L1

Nottingham Forest H

D1 Turnbull 2 (pen)

2–2

24 Oct 20,000 6-2-1 D1

Sunderland A

D1 Turnbull

1–6

31 Oct 30,000 6-2-2 L1

November 1908 3W · 0D · 1L

Chelsea H

0–1

7 Nov 15,000 6-2-3 L2

Blackburn Rovers A

D1 Halse, Turnbull, Wall

3–1

14 Nov 25,000 7-2-3 W1

Bradford City H

D1 Picken, Wall

2–0

21 Nov 15,000 8-2-3 W2

Sheffield Wednesday H

D1 Halse, Turnbull, Picken

3–1

28 Nov 20,000 9-2-3 W3

December 1908 3W · 0D · 2L

Everton A

D1 Halse, Bannister

2–3

5 Dec 35,000 9-2-4 L1

Leicester City H

D1 Wall 3 (2 pen), Picken

4–2

12 Dec 10,000 10-2-4 W1

Arsenal A

D1 Halse

1–0

19 Dec 10,000 11-2-4 W2

Newcastle United A

D1 Wall

1–2

25 Dec 35,000 11-2-5 L1

Newcastle United H

D1 Halse (pen)

1–0

26 Dec 40,000 12-2-5 W1

January 1909 3W · 0D · 3L

Notts County H

D1 Roberts, Halse (pen), Turnbull

4–3

1 Jan 15,000 13-2-5 W2

Preston North End H

0–2

2 Jan 18,000 13-2-6 L1

Middlesbrough A

0–5

9 Jan 15,000 13-2-7 L2

Brighton H

FAC Halse

1–0

16 Jan 8,300 14-2-7 W1

Manchester City H

D1 Livingstone 2, Wall

3–1

23 Jan 40,000 15-2-7 W2

Liverpool A

D1 Turnbull

1–3

30 Jan 30,000 15-2-8 L1

February 1909 2W · 1D · 1L

Everton H

FAC Halse

1–0

6 Feb 35,217 16-2-8 W1

Sheffield United A

0–0

13 Feb 12,000 16-3-8 D1

Blackburn Rovers H

FAC Turnbull 6

6–1

20 Feb 38,500 17-3-8 W1

Nottingham Forest A

0–2

27 Feb 7,000 17-3-9 L1

March 1909 2W · 2D · 2L

Burnley A

FAC Halse, Turnbull 2

3–2

10 Mar 16,850 18-3-9 W1

Chelsea A

D1 Wall

1–1

13 Mar 30,000 18-4-9 D1

Sunderland H

D1 Turnbull, Payne

2–2

15 Mar 10,000 18-5-9 D2

Blackburn Rovers H

0–3

20 Mar 11,000 18-5-10 L1

Newcastle United N

FAC Halse

1–0

27 Mar 40,118 19-5-10 W1

Aston Villa H

0–2

31 Mar 10,000 19-5-11 L1

April 1909 2W · 2D · 5L

Sheffield Wednesday A

0–2

3 Apr 15,000 19-5-12 L2

Bristol City H

0–1

9 Apr 18,000 19-5-13 L3

Everton H

D1 Turnbull 2

2–2

10 Apr 8,000 19-6-13 D1

Bristol City A

0–0

12 Apr 18,000 19-7-13 D2

Notts County A

D1 Livingstone

1–0

13 Apr 7,000 20-7-13 W1

Leicester City A

D1 Wall, Turnbull

2–3

17 Apr 8,000 20-7-14 L1

Bristol City N

FAC Turnbull

1–0

24 Apr 71,401 21-7-14 W1

Arsenal H

D1 Turnbull

1–4

27 Apr 10,000 21-7-15 L1

Bradford City A

0–1

29 Apr 30,000 21-7-16 L2

Home & Away

Venue	P	W	D	L	GF	GA	GD	Win%	CS	Avg Att
Home	22	13	3	6	45	34	+11	59%	4	19,183
Away	20	6	4	10	24	37	-13	30%	5	22,343
Neutral	2	2	0	0	2	0	+2	100%	2	55,760

Home crowds averaged 19,183, away 22,343. Their biggest crowd was 71,401 v Bristol City, the smallest 7,000 v Nottingham Forest.

Season Records

6–1

Biggest win

v Blackburn Rovers · 20 Feb 1909

1–6

Heaviest defeat

v Sunderland · 31 Oct 1908

Longest win streak

Longest unbeaten run

Longest winless run

Clean sheets

Failed to score

1–0

Most common score

7 times

United completed the league double over Manchester City and Notts County. They lost both league meetings with Aston Villa.

When Goals Were Scored

Scored Conceded

1-15

16-30

31-45

46-60

61-75

76+

United's average goal came in the 42', the average one conceded in the 44'. They scored 1 from the 81st minute on and conceded 4. Penalties: 5 scored, 5 conceded. Own goals: 0 for, 2 against.

Min	Scorer	Opponent	Comp	Before	Date
57'	Jimmy Turnbull	@ Preston North End	D1	0–0	5 Sep 1908
60'	Harold Halse	@ Preston North End	D1	1–0	5 Sep 1908
?	Jimmy Turnbull	@ Preston North End	D1	2–0	5 Sep 1908
10'	Jimmy Turnbull	vs Bury	D1	0–0	7 Sep 1908
?	Jimmy Turnbull	vs Bury	D1	1–0	7 Sep 1908
?	Jimmy Lindsay pen	vs Bury	D1	2–0	7 Sep 1908
?	Jimmy Turnbull	vs Middlesbrough	D1	0–0	12 Sep 1908
?	Jimmy Turnbull	vs Middlesbrough	D1	1–0	12 Sep 1908
?	Jimmy Turnbull	vs Middlesbrough	D1	2–0	12 Sep 1908
?	Jimmy Turnbull	vs Middlesbrough	D1	3–0	12 Sep 1908
?	Harold Halse	vs Middlesbrough	D1	4–0	12 Sep 1908
?	George Wall	vs Middlesbrough	D1	5–0	12 Sep 1908
?	Steve Bloomer	vs Middlesbrough	D1	6–0	12 Sep 1908
?	Steve Bloomer	vs Middlesbrough	D1	6–1	12 Sep 1908
?	Jack Hall	vs Middlesbrough	D1	6–2	12 Sep 1908
23'	Irvine Thornley	@ Manchester City	D1	0–0	19 Sep 1908
41'	Jimmy Turnbull	@ Manchester City	D1	0–1	19 Sep 1908
68'	Harold Halse	@ Manchester City	D1	1–1	19 Sep 1908
10'	Harold Halse	vs Liverpool	D1	0–0	26 Sep 1908
40'	Harold Halse	vs Liverpool	D1	1–0	26 Sep 1908
54'	Jack Cox	vs Liverpool	D1	2–0	26 Sep 1908
60'	Jimmy Turnbull	vs Liverpool	D1	2–1	26 Sep 1908
80'	Alex Raisbeck pen	vs Liverpool	D1	3–1	26 Sep 1908
38'	Billy Hibbert	@ Bury	D1	0–0	3 Oct 1908
46'	Billy Hibbert	@ Bury	D1	0–1	3 Oct 1908
53'	George Wall	@ Bury	D1	0–2	3 Oct 1908
55'	Harold Halse	@ Bury	D1	1–2	3 Oct 1908
40'	Peter Kyle	vs Sheffield United	D1	0–0	10 Oct 1908
57'	Alex Bell	vs Sheffield United	D1	0–1	10 Oct 1908
78'	Alex Bell	vs Sheffield United	D1	1–1	10 Oct 1908
7'	George Reeves	@ Aston Villa	D1	0–0	17 Oct 1908
35'	Harry Hampton	@ Aston Villa	D1	0–1	17 Oct 1908
42'	Harold Halse	@ Aston Villa	D1	0–2	17 Oct 1908
?	George Reeves	@ Aston Villa	D1	1–2	17 Oct 1908
12'	William Birch	vs Nottingham Forest	D1	0–0	24 Oct 1908
65'	Sandy Turnbull	vs Nottingham Forest	D1	0–1	24 Oct 1908
67'	Sandy Turnbull pen	vs Nottingham Forest	D1	1–1	24 Oct 1908
75'	Tom Marrison	vs Nottingham Forest	D1	2–1	24 Oct 1908
2'	Arthur Bridgett	@ Sunderland	D1	0–0	31 Oct 1908
15'	Arthur Brown	@ Sunderland	D1	0–1	31 Oct 1908
17'	Sandy Turnbull	@ Sunderland	D1	0–2	31 Oct 1908
38'	Arthur Bridgett	@ Sunderland	D1	1–2	31 Oct 1908
56'	George Holley	@ Sunderland	D1	1–3	31 Oct 1908
80'	Arthur Brown	@ Sunderland	D1	1–4	31 Oct 1908
89'	George Holley	@ Sunderland	D1	1–5	31 Oct 1908
25'	George Hilsdon pen	vs Chelsea	D1	0–0	7 Nov 1908
?	Harold Halse	@ Blackburn Rovers	D1	0–0	14 Nov 1908
?	Jimmy Turnbull	@ Blackburn Rovers	D1	1–0	14 Nov 1908
?	George Wall	@ Blackburn Rovers	D1	2–0	14 Nov 1908
?	Robert Crompton pen	@ Blackburn Rovers	D1	3–0	14 Nov 1908
30'	Jack Picken	vs Bradford City	D1	0–0	21 Nov 1908
70'	George Wall	vs Bradford City	D1	1–0	21 Nov 1908
30'	Frank Bradshaw	vs Sheffield Wednesday	D1	0–0	28 Nov 1908
40'	Harold Halse	vs Sheffield Wednesday	D1	0–1	28 Nov 1908
72'	Jimmy Turnbull	vs Sheffield Wednesday	D1	1–1	28 Nov 1908
88'	Jack Picken	vs Sheffield Wednesday	D1	2–1	28 Nov 1908
4'	Harold Halse	@ Everton	D1	0–0	5 Dec 1908
10'	Bert Freeman	@ Everton	D1	1–0	5 Dec 1908
49'	George Barlow	@ Everton	D1	1–1	5 Dec 1908
70'	James Bannister	@ Everton	D1	1–2	5 Dec 1908
75'	Bert Freeman	@ Everton	D1	2–2	5 Dec 1908
23'	George Wall	vs Leicester City	D1	0–0	12 Dec 1908
29'	Shirley Hubbard	vs Leicester City	D1	1–0	12 Dec 1908
37'	George Wall pen	vs Leicester City	D1	1–1	12 Dec 1908
60'	Jack Picken	vs Leicester City	D1	2–1	12 Dec 1908
69'	George Wall pen	vs Leicester City	D1	3–1	12 Dec 1908
86'	Jimmy Donnelly	vs Leicester City	D1	4–1	12 Dec 1908
51'	Harold Halse	@ Arsenal	D1	0–0	19 Dec 1908
8'	George Wilson	@ Newcastle United	D1	0–0	25 Dec 1908
25'	George Wall	@ Newcastle United	D1	0–1	25 Dec 1908
65'	Albert Shepherd	@ Newcastle United	D1	1–1	25 Dec 1908
12'	Harold Halse pen	vs Newcastle United	D1	0–0	26 Dec 1908
?	Charlie Roberts	vs Notts County	D1	0–0	1 Jan 1909
?	Harold Halse pen	vs Notts County	D1	1–0	1 Jan 1909
?	Sandy Turnbull	vs Notts County	D1	2–0	1 Jan 1909
?	George Dodd	vs Notts County	D1	3–0	1 Jan 1909
?	George Dodd	vs Notts County	D1	3–1	1 Jan 1909
?	Jerry Dean	vs Notts County	D1	3–2	1 Jan 1909
?	Billy Lyon	vs Preston North End	D1	0–0	2 Jan 1909
?	Charles Dawson	vs Preston North End	D1	0–1	2 Jan 1909
2'	Jack Hall x	@ Middlesbrough	D1	0–0	9 Jan 1909
17'	Sammy Cail	@ Middlesbrough	D1	0–1	9 Jan 1909
65'	Alf Common	@ Middlesbrough	D1	0–2	9 Jan 1909
68'	Alf Common	@ Middlesbrough	D1	0–3	9 Jan 1909
30'	Harold Halse	vs Brighton	FAC	0–0	16 Jan 1909
15'	George Livingstone	vs Manchester City	D1	0–0	23 Jan 1909
20'	George Livingstone	vs Manchester City	D1	1–0	23 Jan 1909
75'	George Wall	vs Manchester City	D1	2–0	23 Jan 1909
87'	James Conlin	vs Manchester City	D1	3–0	23 Jan 1909
22'	Sandy Turnbull	@ Liverpool	D1	0–0	30 Jan 1909
?	Tom Chorlton pen	@ Liverpool	D1	1–0	30 Jan 1909
?	Arthur Goddard	@ Liverpool	D1	1–1	30 Jan 1909
?	Joe Hewitt	@ Liverpool	D1	1–2	30 Jan 1909
43'	Harold Halse	vs Everton	FAC	0–0	6 Feb 1909
?	Jimmy Turnbull	vs Blackburn Rovers	FAC	0–0	20 Feb 1909
?	Jimmy Turnbull	vs Blackburn Rovers	FAC	1–0	20 Feb 1909
?	Jimmy Turnbull	vs Blackburn Rovers	FAC	2–0	20 Feb 1909
?	Sandy Turnbull	vs Blackburn Rovers	FAC	3–0	20 Feb 1909
?	Sandy Turnbull	vs Blackburn Rovers	FAC	4–0	20 Feb 1909
?	Sandy Turnbull	vs Blackburn Rovers	FAC	5–0	20 Feb 1909
?	Tinker Davies	vs Blackburn Rovers	FAC	6–0	20 Feb 1909
30'	Enoch West	@ Nottingham Forest	D1	0–0	27 Feb 1909
70'	Tom Marrison	@ Nottingham Forest	D1	0–1	27 Feb 1909
15'	Arthur Ogden	@ Burnley	FAC	0–0	10 Mar 1909
25'	Harold Halse	@ Burnley	FAC	0–1	10 Mar 1909
27'	Jimmy Turnbull	@ Burnley	FAC	1–1	10 Mar 1909
59'	Jimmy Turnbull	@ Burnley	FAC	2–1	10 Mar 1909
85'	Arthur Ogden	@ Burnley	FAC	3–1	10 Mar 1909
52'	George Wall	@ Chelsea	D1	0–0	13 Mar 1909
75'	William Bridgeman	@ Chelsea	D1	1–0	13 Mar 1909
10'	Bill Montgomery	vs Sunderland	D1	0–0	15 Mar 1909
19'	Arthur Brown	vs Sunderland	D1	0–1	15 Mar 1909
22'	Jimmy Turnbull	vs Sunderland	D1	0–2	15 Mar 1909
75'	Ernest Payne	vs Sunderland	D1	1–2	15 Mar 1909
?	Ellis Crompton	vs Blackburn Rovers	D1	0–0	20 Mar 1909
?	Richard Holden OG	vs Blackburn Rovers	D1	0–1	20 Mar 1909
?	Oscar Linkson OG	vs Blackburn Rovers	D1	0–2	20 Mar 1909
71'	Harold Halse	v Newcastle United	FAC	0–0	27 Mar 1909
?	Joseph Walters	vs Aston Villa	D1	0–0	31 Mar 1909
?	Harry Hampton	vs Aston Villa	D1	0–1	31 Mar 1909
20'	Frank Bradshaw	@ Sheffield Wednesday	D1	0–0	3 Apr 1909
55'	Frank Bradshaw	@ Sheffield Wednesday	D1	0–1	3 Apr 1909
35'	Andy Burton	vs Bristol City	D1	0–0	9 Apr 1909
4'	Jimmy Turnbull	vs Everton	D1	0–0	10 Apr 1909
10'	Jimmy Turnbull	vs Everton	D1	1–0	10 Apr 1909
20'	Tim Coleman	vs Everton	D1	2–0	10 Apr 1909
46'	Tim Coleman	vs Everton	D1	2–1	10 Apr 1909
22'	George Livingstone	@ Notts County	D1	0–0	13 Apr 1909
1'	George Wall	@ Leicester City	D1	0–0	17 Apr 1909
23'	Bob Turner	@ Leicester City	D1	1–0	17 Apr 1909
55'	Jimmy Turnbull	@ Leicester City	D1	1–1	17 Apr 1909
66'	James West	@ Leicester City	D1	2–1	17 Apr 1909
78'	Fred Shinton	@ Leicester City	D1	2–2	17 Apr 1909
22'	Sandy Turnbull	v Bristol City	FAC	0–0	24 Apr 1909
?	Jimmy Turnbull	vs Arsenal	D1	0–0	27 Apr 1909
?	Charlie Lewis	vs Arsenal	D1	1–0	27 Apr 1909
?	Harold Lee	vs Arsenal	D1	1–1	27 Apr 1909
?	Tom Fitchie	vs Arsenal	D1	1–2	27 Apr 1909
?	Tom Fitchie	vs Arsenal	D1	1–3	27 Apr 1909
55'	Frank O'Rourke	@ Bradford City	D1	0–0	29 Apr 1909

Squad

30 players

Player	League		FA Cup		Total		Red
Player	Apps	Gls	Apps	Gls	Apps	Gls	Red
Harry Moger	36	–	6	–	42	–	–
George Wall	34	9	6	–	40	9	–
Dick Duckworth	33	–	6	–	39	–	–
Billy Meredith	34	–	4	–	38	–	1
George Stacey	32	–	6	–	38	–	–
Harold Halse	29	10	6	4	35	14	–
Charlie Roberts	27	–	6	–	33	–	–
Jimmy Turnbull	22	11	6	2	28	13	–
Vince Hayes	22	–	6	–	28	–	–
Alex Bell	20	2	6	–	26	2	–
Sandy Turnbull	19	4	6	–	25	4	–
Alex Downie	23	–	–	–	23	–	–
James Bannister	16	1	–	–	16	1	–
Jack Picken	13	3	–	–	13	3	–
George Livingstone	11	2	2	–	13	2	–
Oscar Linkson	10	–	–	–	10	–	–
Joseph Curry	8	–	–	–	8	–	–
Herbert Burgess	4	–	–	–	4	–	–
Joseph Ford	4	–	–	–	4	–	–
Harold Hardman	4	–	–	–	4	–	–
Aaron Hulme	3	–	–	–	3	–	–
Ernest Payne	2	1	–	–	2	1	–
David Christie	2	–	–	–	2	–	–
Richard Holden	2	–	–	–	2	–	–
John McGillivray	2	–	–	–	2	–	–
Thomas Wilcox	2	–	–	–	2	–	–
William Berry	1	–	–	–	1	–	–
Anthony Donnelly	1	–	–	–	1	–	–
Jack Quin	1	–	–	–	1	–	–
Ernest Thomson	1	–	–	–	1	–	–

Division One Table

#	Team	P	W	D	L	GF	GA	GD	Pts
1	Newcastle United	38	24	5	9	65	41	+24	53
2	Everton	38	18	10	10	82	57	+25	46
3	Sunderland	38	21	2	15	78	63	+15	44
4	Blackburn Rovers	38	14	13	11	61	50	+11	41
5	Sheffield Wednesday	38	17	6	15	67	61	+6	40
6	Arsenal	38	14	10	14	52	49	+3	38
7	Aston Villa	38	14	10	14	58	56	+2	38
8	Bristol City	38	13	12	13	45	58	-13	38
9	Middlesbrough	38	14	9	15	59	53	+6	37
10	Preston North End	38	13	11	14	48	44	+4	37
11	Chelsea	38	14	9	15	56	61	-5	37
12	Sheffield United	38	14	9	15	51	59	-8	37
13	Manchester United	38	15	7	16	58	68	-10	37
14	Nottingham Forest	38	14	8	16	66	57	+9	36
15	Notts County	38	14	8	16	51	48	+3	36
16	Liverpool	38	15	6	17	57	65	-8	36
17	Bury	38	14	8	16	63	77	-14	36
18	Bradford City	38	12	10	16	47	47	0	34
19	Manchester City	38	15	4	19	67	69	-2	34
20	Leicester Fosse	38	8	9	21	54	102	-48	25